Sinclair War of the Roses

Steve Sinclair would not have attacked me and worked hard to get my opinions off the search engines IF I had thrown my “Rose Line” in with his “Roslin” that means “Red head”. Steve sits high up in his rosy tower and gleans the net of roses that are not attached to his surname. He types these two names into google every morning upon awaking

“SINCLAIR ROSE LINE”

When he sees a rose line that does not mention Roslyn Chapel, but does mentions the Knight Templars, he launches his flying Gnostic Apes to destroy the opposition.

I know Scottish people with red hair. In 1996 I copyrighted all notions that the “Rose Line” pointed to family of folks with Rose Names, and ignored the Meridian Line implications – because it was a dead end. I did so because folks who were authoring books about the Holy Grail – four years before Dan Brown published The Davinci Code – were thinking aloud on some yahoogroups, that a family who came to own the Rose Line Names were descendents of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

“Excuse me Mr. Moderator, but my grandmother was Mary Magdalene Rosamond and her daughter, Rosemary is my mother. Is it possible I am candidate for a Rex Deus family?”

“No, this means you are banned from this groups and all your posts – erased!”

The Sinclair yahoogroup banned me and erased all my posts. How long ago was that? Eight years. Hence, there are Rose Lines galore! As long as you attach the Sinclair Aphid to your rose line, you will not be molested!

Now, I own the copyright on the idea of a human Rose Line and will cut and paste examples of folks who are not honoring copyright laws.

Above is a book the Master of Falcon Art college and Louvain authored. He employs a rose to sign his name. The Swan Brethren wore a similar rose, but it was closed. This is Gottschalk de Rosemondt, a Renaissance theologian, and perhaps an art teacher. That is the Habsburg cote of arms drawn next to the rose, which suggests this book belonged to a Habsburg. I suspect Charles Quint, who looted the Americas of gold after slaughtering the native Americans, owned this book.

Let us look at these names associated with Roslin. There are four versions of the name ROSAMOND, ad two forms of the name ROSEMARY. I will be posting many times what these names mean to many authors who put their theories on the internet. None of these people own these names. I am disqualified because my family owns rose names. According to a thousand theories regarding the Rose Line of Jesus and Mary, bad people did bad things to make ‘The Rose Line’ invisible – until now! People doing bad things to me and my family – is not applicable!

These so-called scholars do not play by their own rules. Only when the rosy road has been weeded of rivals, will everyone arrive at the truth the Sinclairs are ‘The Chosen Ones’. What choice do they have?

There is only one group of people who employed these tactics, and they were the Nazis.

In 1987 I declared I was a Nazarite and immersed myself in a river. I consider myself to be a Jew.

Dan Brown did not “invent” the rose line. He and his wife lurked about like aphids in un-named yahoogroups I was a member of.

What people like Steve and Dan do is impede real scholarly investigations. Forinstance, Rosemondt was the executor of Pope Adrian’s Will. Adrian was sent to Louvain by Margaret of York whom around, the real War of the Roses, swirled! All records of Adrian’s papacy have disappeared! Adrian rescued the Knights of Saint John from Malta!

In closing, I believe Steve Sinclair will do, and say anything in order to get his monkey paws on the ‘Ruby Line Slippers’. Have at it Steve! But, leave other manic folks alone to go where they will go, and record whatever they see.

My mother, Rosemary, told her four children this;

“There’s a great big wide world out there! Have at it!”

The Sinclair research has made everyone’s world – real small -especially their own! They are tadpoles swimming in murky a DNA pool while claiming to descend from world explorers! The proof is in the pudding. Case closed!

Jon Presco

Roslin

First name origins & meanings:

Spanish: Pretty rose
Latin: A flower
French: Little red-haired one
Scottish: Redhead; explosive
First name variations: Rosalinda, Rosaline, Roseline, Rosalyn, Roselyn, Rosey, Rosilind, Rose-Lyn, Rosalind, Rosa, Rosie, Rosey, Roz, Rozsi, Rosalie, Rosalee, Rosalia, Rosetta, Rosette, Rosina, Rosena, Rasia, Rois, Rosita, Rosebud, Rosabell, Rosly, Rosamund, Rosmund, Rosemonde, Rozamund, Roanee, Roanna, Rosaleen, Rosellen, Roselle, Rosella, Rosemary, Rosemarie, Chara, Charo, Rose, Rosselin, Roslyn, Rose-Lynn, Rosalyn, Rosalind, Rosalinde, Rosalinda, Rozling, Rosling

“Dan Brown simply invented the ‘Rose Line’ linking Rosslyn and Glastonbury. The name ‘Roslin’ definitely does not derive from any ‘hallowed Rose Line’. It has nothing to do with a ‘Rose Bloodline’ or a ‘Rose Line meridian’. There are many medieval spellings of ‘Rosslyn’. ‘Roslin’ is certainly not the ‘original spelling’: it is now the most common spelling for the village.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_York

In June 1476, he (Adrian) started his studies at the University of Leuven, where he pursued philosophy, theology and Canon Law, due to a scholarship granted by Margaret of York, Duchess of Burgundy, becoming a Doctor of Theology in 1491,

Margaret of York (3 May 1446 – 23 November 1503) – also by marriage known as Margaret of Burgundy – was Duchess of Burgundy as the third wife of Charles the Bold and acted as a protector of the Duchy after his death. She was a daughter of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, and Cecily Neville, and the sister of two Kings of England, Edward IV and Richard III.

Duchess Isabella of Burgundy, the mother of Charles the Bold, was through her blood-ties and her perception of Burgundian interests pro-English. As a granddaughter of John of Gaunt, she was consequently sympathetic to the House of Lancaster. She believed that Burgundian trade, from which the Duchy drew its vast wealth, depended upon friendly relations with England. For this reason she was prepared to favour any English faction which was willing to favour Burgundy. By 1454, she favoured the House of York, headed by Margaret’s father, Richard, 3rd Duke of York. Although the King of England, Henry VI, was the head of the House of Lancaster, his wife, Margaret of Anjou, was a niece of Burgundy’s bitter enemy, Charles VII of France, and was herself an enemy of the Burgundians; the Duke of York, by contrast, shared Burgundy’s enmity towards the French, and preferred the Burgundians.

In 1507 Adrian was appointed tutor to Emperor Maximilian I’s (1493–1519) seven year old grandson, Charles, who was later to become Emperor Charles V (1519–56). In 1515 Adrian was sent to Spain on a diplomatic errand, and after his arrival at the Imperial Court in Toledo, Charles V secured his succession to the See of Tortosa, and on 14 November 1516 commissioned him Inquisitor General of Aragon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Roses

Read more on FamilyEducation: http://baby-names.familyeducation.com/name-meaning/roslin#ixzz2dVdB3x9e

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/03/on-steve-st-clair-and-henry-sinclair.html

http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=12

http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=9a7f6b2e2f405b701e8ecf8bf4c0d0dd

Jesus has been named the “Rose of Sharon” and in medieval times his Mother, Mary, was called “Santa Maria della Rosa”. Could this suggest a Christic Rose lineage? It has been suggested that certain Scottish families, such as the Sinclairs of Roslin (founders of Rosslyn Chapel 1446) and the royal Stewarts, are descended from such a Christic bloodline. Intriguingly, Sir William Sinclair, a former Earl of Rosslyn, signed his name St. Clair of Roselin and ancient Scottish charters were witnessed by a certain Roger de Roselyn. Furthermore, one of the telluric leylines traversing Scotland has been named the “Rose Line” which appears to pass through the medieval
Chapel at Roslin (Rose line?).
In the story of the holy grail, perhaps there is much more to the Scottish connection, as found in the Da Vinci Code novel, than has hitherto been revealed.

http://www.sacredconnections.co.uk/holyland/jesusmarymag_iona.html

http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=97

To celebrate filming at the Chapel near Roslin, nestled below the Pentland Hills, just six miles south of Edinburgh, friends and local people from the Roslin Community hosted a party.
The cast and film crew including Ron Howard were duly invited to attend on the 28th September 2005. Entertainment was organised for their guests in the tradition of true Scottish hospitality, with traditional music and dancing. Excited children waited patiently……. but sadly due to heavy work schedules and fatigue, no actors were present at the welcoming party………..
The request to the band was Seal’s passionate ballad “Kiss From A Rose” that sings about a fabled tower and an efflorescent rose that brings light at the end ……..”Now that your rose is in bloom, A light hits the gloom on the grave”.
Every lady present at the party was gifted a single Red Rose, the timeless flower that is indicative of ardent Love, given in memory of the special lady with the double 13th letter of our alphabet in her initials….. …M M……. the power of Love overcomes everything.
Affirmation may be found in Corinthians 13:13 as we enter the final

Rose Line is a fictional name given to the Paris Meridian and to the sunlight line defining the exact time of Easter on the Gnomon of Saint-Sulpice, marked by a brass strip on the floor of the church in the Priory of Sion mythology, where the two are conflated.

The fictional name Rose Line was also popularized by Dan Brown in his 2003 novel, The Da Vinci Code.[1]

Contents
[hide] 1 Priory of Sion Mythology
2 Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code
3 See also
4 References

Priory of Sion Mythology[edit source]

The 1967 Priory of Sion document Au Pays de la Reine Blanche[2][3] states that “Rennes-les-Bains is located precisely on the Zero Meridian, which connects Saint-Sulpice in Paris” adding that “the parish of Rennes-les-Bains guards the heart of Roseline”, being a reference to Saint Roseline de Villeneuve. Au Pays de la Reine Blanche also referred to “the line of the Zero Meridian, that is to say the red line, in English: ‘Rose-line'”.[4] Later in 1978, Pierre Plantard also referred to the “red line of the meridian, the ‘Rose-Line’…since Roseline, the Abbess of the ‘Celle aux Arcs’, celebrates her feast day on 17 January… and her legend is well worth a read”.[5]

The document entitled Le Serpent Rouge – Notes sur Saint-Germain-des-Près et Saint-Sulpice de Paris[6] conflates the Paris Meridian with a gnomon in the Parisian church of Saint-Sulpice marked in the floor with a brass line, which it calls the “Red Serpent”.

Philippe de Chérisey in his document Stone and Paper recounted a story that a Roseline was also the name of his acquaintance: “there was a Roseline I knew who died on 6 August 1967, on the Feast of the Transfiguration, when leaving the zero meridian by car.”[7] Another document by Philippe de Chérisey entitled Circuit,[8] in Chapter VII, adds the detail that Roseline was killed in a car accident whilst working as a double on the Television film La beauté sur la terre (1968),[9] a film that also starred Philippe de Chérisey under his stage name of Amédée.[10] The story about Roseline in Circuit also involves an imaginary character named Charlot who appears frequently throughout Circuit and both characters are patently imaginary beings appearing in one of Philippe de Chérisey’s surrealist compositions.

Chapter XIII of Circuit is devoted to the Zero Meridian, with de Chérisey claiming it was established by Till Eulenspiegel (before Jean Picard), listing key sites that it passes through (in a fictional work attributed to Abbé François-Pierre Cauneille). In this chapter Roseline is called ‘Fisher Woman’, preferring herself to be known as “Di O Nysos, DON” (“dondon” is French slang for “fat woman”), an otherworldly being who organises funerals for the dead who are still living in her new Citroen 2CV (the make of car she was killed in).

Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code[edit source]

The term Rose Line has been popularized by Dan Brown in his novel The Da Vinci Code as an alternate name for “the world’s first prime meridian”,[1] identified as the Paris Meridian.[11] Brown’s novel also conflates this meridian with a gnomon in the Parisian church of Saint-Sulpice marked in the floor with a brass line,[12] as did the 1967 Priory Document Le Serpent Rouge – Notes sur Saint-Germain-des-Près et Saint-Sulpice de Paris. The Paris Meridian actually passes about 100 metres east of the gnomon,[13] which according to author Sharan Newman and a sign in the church was “never called a Rose-Line”.[12][14] A St Sulpice booklet dating from 2000, in the page about the history of the gnomon describes the brass line as “a meridian”, it does not use the term Roseline or Rose Line.[15] Author Paul Murdin describes such sun lines as a “Meridian”, or meridiana.[16]

Brown identified the Paris Meridian with the alleged bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene as well as Rosslyn Chapel, the central part of his novel. Quoting from The Da Vinci Code:

“Rosslyn Chapel’s entrance was more modest than Langdon expected. The small wooden door had two iron hinges and a simple oak sign, Roslin. This ancient spelling, Langdon explained to Sophie, derived from the Rose Line meridian on which the chapel sat; or, as Grail academics preferred to believe, from the ‘Line of the Rose’ — the ancestral lineage of Mary Magdalene…”[17]

Quoting Mark Oxbrow and Ian Robertson from their book Rosslyn and the Grail:

“Dan Brown simply invented the ‘Rose Line’ linking Rosslyn and Glastonbury. The name ‘Roslin’ definitely does not derive from any ‘hallowed Rose Line’. It has nothing to do with a ‘Rose Bloodline’ or a ‘Rose Line meridian’. There are many medieval spellings of ‘Rosslyn’. ‘Roslin’ is certainly not the ‘original spelling’: it is now the most common spelling for the village.”[18]

At the climax of the novel, the protagonist follows the line of Arago medallions to the Louvre museum, where (according to the book) the Paris Meridian passes beneath the so-called Inverted Pyramid in an underground mall in front of the museum. Following the tradition of esoteric interpretations of this meridian, the novel hints that this is the final resting place of the Holy Grail. The fact that the meridian passes near the Inverted Pyramid is also noted in the book Le guide du Paris maçonnique by Raphäel Aurillac, who likewise ascribes some deeper, esoteric significance to this.

In the Louvre area, the meridian line marked by the Arago medallions actually runs through the museum and the great courtyard at a spot considerably to the east of the Inverted Pyramid. The medallions in the museum are behind ticketed access points, while the Inverted Pyramid is located in a public mall next to the museum.

Other landmarks said to lie on the line are Arques and Conques,[19] the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent’s in Carcassonne, and the Church of St. Stephen’s in Bourges, and Rennes-les-Bains.

While Dan Brown presents the Rose Line as “the world’s first prime meridian”,[1] the idea of establishing a Prime Meridian dates back to antiquity,[20] with suggested meridians running through Rhodes or the Canary Islands. When Greenwich was adopted as the universal zero longitude in 1884[21] (not 1888 as the novel says), it had at least nine rivals besides Paris (Berlin, Cadiz, Copenhagen, Lisbon, Rio, Rome, Saint Petersburg, Stockholm, and Tokyo).

04/01/2013 2:45pm
That’s a good question (to me at least).

My position is that there is not as yet, known to me, any factual evidence that:
A. Prince Henry was in North America
B. The Sinclair Family were in any way associated with the Knights Templar (other than at the trials in which William Sinclairs son testified against them in a minor way and his father testified on their behalf that they were good Christians)
C. That Rosslyn Chapel has any association with the Templar Order
D. That Sinclair blood runs in Native North American veins

But, if I’m reading your comment above correctly, you think of it as case closed. I can tell you absolutely, I don’t. There are many reasons I don’t think the area is exhausted for study, and I’m short on time. It’s not because there’s some loose evidence that interests me. It’s not because I know something others don’t. I’ll have to explain that later or I’ll be late for a conference call.

I’ll close this way – if the government and scientific groups thought that way, we’d be done with scientific exploration. No evidence of water or life on Mars? Let’s stop going.
Jason Colavito link
04/01/2013 3:04pm
Thank you for answering the question, Steve. As you know, it is impossible to prove a negative, and there is no way to disprove conclusively that Henry Sinclair came to America. But in the absence of any evidence, what choice do I have but to say that the story appears to be groundless and to therefore act in alignment with that evidence? Similarly, one might ask why we do not continue to seek out phlogiston (it MIGHT be there!) or test the body for the effects of the Four Humours (you MIGHT have black bile, after all). Surely, (and this is a joke) you should be testing your family for its unique blend of Humours, for which there is as much evidence as for Henry Sinclair’s voyage.

The answer is that there are better explanations, and the weight of evidence favors those. It’s not just that there is no evidence for the Sinclair myth, it’s that there is better evidence in favor of radically different explanations, namely that the story emerged from a 1558 hoax, was developed by Scottish nationalists as a counterpoint to the Welsh Prince Madoc story, and was exploited by racist Victorians and anti-establishment New Agers. All of that can be demonstrated with very good evidence, and nothing similar can be marshalled in favor of the other view. If every line of evidence points in the same direction, this is a strong indication of truth.

Of course, new evidence could change that, and you are welcome to look for it. But you shouldn’t be offended if someone says you are looking for that evidence if that’s what you’re doing.

I don’t mean this to sound argumentative, but I am honestly asking: You sound as though the mystery will remain open for you forever. Would anything serve to convince you that this story is, in all likelihood, a fiction? If so, what would that be?